Victorian Reverse Geocache Jolimont, Victoria, Australia
By geo_jas on 13-Nov-14. Waypoint GA6859

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Type: Reverse
Container: Regular
Coordinates: S37° 49.000' E144° 59.000' (WGS 84)
  55H 322492E 5812610N (UTM)
Elevation: 22 m
Local Government Area: Melbourne

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Sometimes things work a bit backwards

The cache is not at the listed coordinates. You will need to arrange to get the box from me.

With this cache you are given the box but it will only open if taken to a specific location.

The first three button presses will tell you how far you are from gz. After that, you will have more chances to open the box but you will not receive any additional information. If you are at gz the box will open to allow access to the log book (and swaps) and you can log your find online. Please log how many attempts it took and you are encouraged to take photos at your gz. Each cacher will be given a different gz location so PAF will only work if it's to me.

After you have logged the cache it must be returned to me so that I can reset it and change the secret gz location before being passed on to the next cacher.

Inspired by GA4305 that I had fun doing while on a trip to Adelaide recently.

The cache will normally be available in and around Melbourne (especially the Eastern suburbs) but it will travel around when I do. I'll note any movements in the logs.

Log a note here or email me to arrange to get the cache. I'll try to accommodate visitors as best I can.

Questions can also be asked in the forums here.

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14-Sep-22
I met up with the CO and Mister Doctor at a tree climb recently, and learned of this reverse cache. It sounded like something I would very much enjoy, so I asked Mister Doctor if I could join him on the adventure.
Now, having completed the mission, all I can say is WOW! What a fantastic idea, and the workmanship in creating the "magic box" is exemplary.

Meeting up with Mister Doctor and gathering the data we needed was good fun. I enjoyed doing the calculations, and our discussions on what our next move should be.

By looking at the map, we could see that one of our options was more likely to be useful, so we went there.
What a joy to find we were only 28 metres from GZ. This is going to be easy!

The terrain was not friendly, but we stumbled our way through the scrub, and down the steep hillside. Oops! The gps told us we had gone too far south, so we had to climb up a bit higher. Now the message became less helpful "<50 metres". But which way? "Let's keep going uphill" I said. A little further along we checked again. "< 100 metres". This is trickier than I expected. We climbed higher again and received the same message.

Time to check with the CO to see how close we need to be for the box to open. He suggested we retrace our steps, so we worked our way back down the hill again. After checking a couple of times along the way, we eventually found success on the actual race track. What a joyous moment when the box finally opened and we were able to fill in the log book. Having taken 9 attempts to reach our destination, we seem to have been slower than all the previous finders, but we were happy.

The walk back to the cars was much easier, following the race track, without any bush bashing. Isn't that always the way?

Thank you for your excellent work Geo_Jas, and to Mister Doctor for allowing me to join him on this adventure.
 
14-Sep-22
How cool was that!

I was chatting with the CO recently about gadget caches he was building for the upcoming Whittlesea Mega and he mentioned this one. It sounded like a must-do.

“The Box” duly arrived, and apart from everything else, it was a nice piece of woodworking.

I pressed the button and got the first piece of the puzzle.

Soon after I met up with Crustyvarmint one evening so we could crack this one together. We stood in the carpark at Heathmont station. After psyching ourselves up Crusty triggered attempt 2. Aha, now we had two choices for GZ - one to the south on the Monash freeway slip road, and one to the north in what looked like the pleasant greenery of Doncaster East.

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We went north.

Oh my oh my - Crusty knew this site very well as the old abandoned car racing track known as the Templestowe Hill Climb.

“Described in 1951 as Australia's most spectacular hill climb course, the 969-metre-long Templestowe circuit featured an incredibly steep rise at its halfway mark. Known as 'The Wall', this 100-metre section with a gradient of 1 in 2.5 was the steepest bitumen road in Australia, and today can still be walked by the energetic.”

We found ourselves on the side of a steep hill for our third attempt, which said we were 28m from GZ. At least we’d picked the North option rather than the South, but we still had some work to do.

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Well, we trekked down, we trekked up, we were <50m away, we were <100m away. Finally resting at the top of the hill we contacted geo_jas for help. He recommended heading south again, and finally at the ninth attempt there was a click and the box opened right on the old hill climb road!

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Very cool!

The logbook was a gallery of happy reverse geocachers and it was great to join them.

The route back to the car took us up “The Wall”. Wow, what a road!!!! Crusty pointed out the grooves where cars had bottomed out on the bitumen.

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Thanks geo_jas for the opportunity to do a reverse geocache. I’m extremely impressed with what your box can do, and what a fun night adventure it turned out to be.


 
07-Aug-22
Having a chat with the CO this morning, I thought this cache sounded like fun!

Can I go on the wait list for when it’s next available?

TFTRW
 
16-Jul-22
Well one of the GCA bucket list goals was finally completed today.

My quest for a reverse has been ticked.

It's been on my list to contact the cache owner for many years and gather the box of gold.

Yep next week, yep next month and so on.

Finally I noticed the cache again and thought it needed some love so sent a message to Geo_Jas.

A very prompt reply soon let me know a little tech work would have the cache ready to go in a few days.

Well that was certainly the case as a few days later we swapped a bit of banter in the work car park.

A quick test later and attempt one soon had my firdst lot of co-ord's.

A few hours later attempt 2 near the home front had me thinking a little more.

I'm onto it!

Then that night i chased some unlove on a cache in Carlton for a third reading.

Yep definetly on the right track.

This morning I braved the wind and chill factor to bound to GZ.

4th attempt righ on what I thought was correct.

MMM no still 50m away.

I'll blame the arctic weather for a bad reading.

The 5th revealed the log book.

I signed took some photos and was soon hurtling back to the car for warmth!

TFTRC fun Very Happy

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09-Feb-21
#GA5117 - 16:30; In Melbourne for a couple of days and between errands, there is time for a spot of caching. I had made arrangements via a PM on the forum prior to the trip to collect "the magic box" for this cache from CO and met up with him this morning prior to setting off on my mission. Collected some caches along the way, then did a bit of work for the geodaughter before getting back to the mission. After a visit to Brimbank Park, it was off to Truganina Park to test my calculations for this reverse cache. Parked the geomobile and with some trepidation headed for my calculated coords for GZ. On the approach my optimism lifted. I tentatively pressed the button and after a nail biting wait, the cache container opened and I was able to sign the log Dancing . I used all three of my allotted attempts to feed into my calculation and it opened on the fourth press of the button. I appreciated the CO refurbishing the cache after three years unloved and making it available to me today. Any cacher who doesn't have this cache on their "to do" list needs to fix that straight away! It was great to meet you Jason and I also enjoyed the chat when I collected and returned this nifty cache Clapping TFTC geo_jas Very HappyClan Cerberus
 
03-Feb-18
I happen to be unexpectedly staying in South Yarra overnight....any chance of catching up with you to have a go at this reverse geocache please?
 
21-Jan-18
What great fun this Reverse cache was. Found in the company of n0w0rries and Adrian Homburg after the event. It was fun to have also found other caches in the vicinity of where it took us to. What a clever concept I've no idea how it actually works but loved that magical moment when it opened to reveal a lovely stash. Thanks for the fun it created and the opportunity to learn so much more about Geocaching Australia with these two very knowledgeable blokes.
My grateful thanks for the cache and the knowledge gained in the process.
 
19-Dec-17
In an effort to drive a bit more traffic on this cache, I've given in to peer pressure and changed the cache type from "Mystery" to "Reverse"

I'm also happy for anyone who has already done it to have another go, although I will give priority to those who have not done it. Just a warning though that for a second time finder I will have to make the find much harder.
 
16-Dec-17
I liked this cache, good fun, despite some technical issues at GZ, I managed to get my name in the log book.

Clan PhoenixClan Phoenix
 
16-Dec-17
After receiving a request to host a Victorian event to start the States Of The Nation game I sent a pm to the CO requesting his presence. my request for this cache to pay a visit proved worthwhile too. A bit of discussion amongst our fellow Victorian GCA cachers was a highlight of the event. After the first button press at Victoria Park we headed in an Easterly direction to a different park. With the nearby GC cache found and a likely looking GZ plotted, Cathlud departed from the group and CybergranV and I joined ahomburg up the road for some light refreshments before crossing the river and finding a suitable parking spot. My, it is soooo busy here at this time of year. Glad it wasn't a traditional we were looking for. We would not have had a hope.
I did my good deed for the day when I noticed a young couple setting up a tightrope between two trees. After some kindly advice on the easiest use of their ratchet strap they were soon off the ground.
 
16-Dec-17
I had fun watching nOwOrries take his first two readings for this cache. I hope that he headed in the correct direction when we parted ways. Unfortunately I had family waiting at home for me to return.
 
22-Jan-17
I was in Melbourne for CaughtAtWork's Cache Chase event at Docklands and noticed a brown box sitting on the table near the end of the event. After a little bit of begging and pleading the CO happily reset the box of magic and schooled me in the art of button pressing.
The first push of the button revealed I was 373m from GZ. A look around the area we were standing gave me a very good idea which way I needed to walk (unless I wanted to swim out into the Yarra). Off I headed in the only logical direction for almost 300m. The second push confirmed I was on the correct path. Further around the corner there was a likely spot so I pushed the button again.
Absolutely amazing. Bells rang, pixies and fairies appeared, rabbits sat up and twitched their noses, flocks of birds appeared from nowhere and flapped their wings in applause. (Well, maybe it wasn't quite that dramatic). The box whirled and whirred then the lid popped open revealing a log book and a heap of swag.

Thanks you Geo_Jas. I've been watching this cache for quite a long time, just biding my time until I could catch up with you at a suitable spot in Melbourne.
#488.
 
22-Jan-17
Mr Morris joined Tronador on Expedition2, crack the wooden box and finally we have it!! It was a very well travelled box, after opening it - it continued on the journey to find all the caches for the event and then headed off again another couple of times. Great fund and nice to have finally cracked it.
 
22-Jan-17
What a fantastic cache. One half of The Morris came along too and with great team work and some triangulation we were able to determine the location. Of course we headed off in the wrong direction at first but through a process of elimination soon found the secret path. What a brilliantly constructed cache and it was really exciting to hear the mechanism whirring before the lid popped open. With the caching business complete we continued on with the game, and the cache tagged along. Thanks for a great adventure.
Oh and it only took us 3 attempts. Yeah.
 
20-Jan-17
I see you will be attending the event on Sunday. Any chance I'd be able to give this a go then? I too have done the one in SA while at the mega and it was awesome. I'm visiting from Sydney so this may be my only chance.
 
23-Oct-16
Well, this has been a little while coming.

First I received this at an event, curious aout how it would work. It was a very cool concept, however would it work...

It took a little while and the first time this was tried, the first two circles touched. Somehow, I had picked two quite disparate locations which happened to linearly coincide with the actual final GZ. The cache looked good for coordinates though and when I and the geokids arrived, we were concerned. A press of the instructed button did not open the cache, but rather the screen went dead.

Noooooo!

I sent the CO a photo at GZ with a very disappointed and sad face on.

I was in the right spot, but the batteries had died.

The cache was returned to the CO for maintenance.

But then it was returned to me at another event... Be careful of strange men handing you strange wooden boxes which you don't know the contents of...

So the box has been wih me for too long. I knew it was local, but I have been interstate and so I haven't had a chance.

But not this morning.

A short walk with Lionlord in tow had me at the suspected GZ, it had to be here...

Press... wait... whirr! Click!

The treaure was revealed, and squeals of delight were forthcoming. And then Lionlord saw what was inside!

A couple of pathtags have been liberated and an approriate amount of swag exchanged.

Thanks Geo-Jas for the fun of this unique cache. Absolutely awesome!
 
30-Apr-16
16:10
I tend to get a bit lazy after a morning at the Blood Bank, and was settled on the new couch when I got a ping from LouiseAnn asking if I was up to a bit of fun.
So we hared off in the sports car, visited geo_jas and picked up this box of tricks. Getting fairly close to where it led was easy, but narrowing down to the point where we cracked it open took a few more button presses than we'd anticipated..
Thanks, geo_jas... what a hoot! And thanks to LouiseAnn for inviting me along for the ride.
GCA#119
 
30-Apr-16
I've been keen to do this cache since I found out about it! I organised for this weekend to be the time to head out and pick it up. Having done a test run on the one iamapom owns, I knew this would be move fun with company so I checked in -nirgal- was around. Since he was, we headed out together to pick up the box! A couple of button pushes and a couple of caches later, we were ready to calculate a final.
We headed to that general area and discovered we were close, but not close enough. This lead to a few extra button pushes and after 8 (total) the box opened!!! We were pretty impressed, I have to say!
Thanks for the cache and the fun geo_gas! I'll get this back to you Wednesday night.
 
27-Mar-16
Hi Geo_jas, I was hoping to arrange to gave a crack at this cache. I work in East Melbourne and live in the inner north, happy to travel to grab it too Smile
 
09-Nov-15
Found It!
So ever since this cache got built I've been wanting to have a go with it. (to see if it was better than mine Wink) I am in Melbourne for the Mega event next weekend so I figured this was my chance. I picked it up from geo_jas on the way into Melbourne and had my first guess just down the road. 18km to go. Take two was at the motel I'm staying at. 10km to go. Getting closer I guess. But on my 3rd attempt I got 20km to go. That was the wrong direction then. Attempt number 4 and I got 7m to go which resulted in an open cache! I signed the book and was then a bit confused as to how to close it again but I worked it out eventually. I will get it back to you tomorrow.
Thanks for the cache!

And, is it better than the SA one? - let's just say mine will be getting a firmware update soon! I also wonder how much longer until someone in Sydney builds one...
 
19-Jul-15
Found by caughtatwork at 14:00 on 19/07/2015
Wow. What a geocache idea. I collected the first point at the swap meet event last weekend and took another reading this morning out the front of the house. Mrs. caughtatwork was quite intrigued by the idea that we had the cache in hand but couldn't open it until we were at the right location. So, with 2 circles, this left me with two possible options. As one was in the middle of the freeway, the other was the most likley. Mrs. caughtatwork and I plugged in the co-ords and headed off to GZ only a kilometre or so from home base. Arriving at the predicted GZ, the GPS was not quite where the map suggested it should have been, so we fired up the device for choice 3 and we were only about 80m away, but not close enough to open the pandorica. Using the new projected co-ordinates (thank goodness for the GCA toolbox), we headed over to GZ and upon pressing the button for the 4th time, we were awarded with an open geocache.
Took nothing, left nothing.
Thanks geo_jas for this geocache idea. It's a real ripper and there are so many people that would love to have a go at a geocache like this, if they only knew it existed. I'll contact you shortly to agree a time to return the device.
*Overall Experience: 5*
*Recommended*
 
21-Jun-15
Ok,
I got given a chance to do this cache, I have been very nervous in working this one out.

I got enough courage to do it today,

I believe I should of got it in 3 turns, but I panicked at the 3rd attempted and kept pushing the button when I was at the same spot, because I was not understanding the last message on it, silly me it should of been 3 not 9!!!

Oh well if anyone really knows me they know this is a fantastic effort and will be amazed it did only take 9 Takes and only 10 minutes,

Thanks geo-jas for this caches, [:x]



 
22-Apr-15
Well, on my fourth attempt at pressing the little black button, I can finally call this one done! It's taken me a bit longer than expected, what with the shenanigans of Easter, beta female's birthday, and a redundancy thrown in for good measure Shocked

Nevertheless, this evening I was passing what was my now deduced GZ in the truck so popped by for another attempt. I picked a likely looking landmark, hit the button and was delighted to see a brand new screen appear and hear the satisfying whirr and clunk. This also gave me a chance to truly appreciate all the work that's gone into this little beauty.

TFTC and the experience geo_jas. Unlikely I'll get that again, and nice to give it a try after hearing about such devices for some time.
 
15-Apr-15
Just adding a 'progress' note Very Happy Easter and job-searching got in the way a bit, but in amongst that I found the time to try it out in a couple of spots and collected some numbers which we plugged in. Last weekend we then ventured out to the most likely identified GZ with much hope, only to find another set of numbers. Closer certainly, but a bit off the mark.

Have plugged the third circle in and will try again. The circles don't exactly intersect, so we'll pick the spot in the middle and hope for the best!
 
22-Mar-15
How very cool!!!
We had heard about this cache a couple of months ago and spotted GeoJas with it at the Pi Day Event and arranged to be next on the list after RobinYang.
Upon picking up the cache GeoJas explained it a bit more for me (JMelb) and showed me how to download an app that would help with determining where GZ was.
At home we eagerly pressed the button and after lots of whirring and clunking (very cool) it came up with the distance from home. Using an online PC tool we were able to determine the circle and 2 potential spots for GZ and chose one. The next day we set off to our chosen spot having marked a WP on our HH GPS at home and then arrived at the location and walked around until the HH GPS agreed with the distance we had first been given.
We eagerly pressed the button hoping that we would be within a reasonable range (and not double the original distance lol) as even if we had chosen the right area there is still a wide arc of correct distances.
Amazingly, as it clicked and whirred, suddenly the message came up "Distance from GZ 12m - opening cache" (or words to that effect!)
How exciting - it had opened on our 2nd press!!! Most unexpected as I had envisoned being the first group to get to the 20 presses and getting that message!! lol We didn't even need to use the app! lol
TFTC GeoJas, it was lots of fun and if allowed we wouldn't mind having another go in the future Smile 5 thumbs up!
PS It was lovely chatting to your wife when we dropped it off Smile
GJMMelb
 
16-Mar-15
I had heard of the concept of a reverse cache on youtube before but never thought I would actually have the opportunity to complete one... that was until I attended a recent Pi Day geocaching event and met the owner and creator of this cache - geo_jas. In conversation he shared about where the concept came from and the process involved in constructing this cache. I was blown away and only could imagine the amount of technical work required to bring it all together. Total respect! Anyway, I put my hand up to try it and turns out I was first in line! So delighted and excited and after some instructions on how to operate it, I had the cache in hand. Unfortunately I would have to wait two days before attempting it... sometimes real life can be harsh. To show just how excited I was, I even dreamed about solving the cache last night Laughing

Today was my day off so took the cache in hand, jumped in the car and headed off to solve it. Geo_jas had given me a hint of the general area where the final GZ was so I headed to that part of Melbourne. On route, I took two readings, about 1.5km apart. At each reading, took a photo of the information appearing on the screen and punched the information into my phone. I used an iphone app called iGCT pro to calculate two possible GZs.

With the most likely GZ entered into my GPSr, I parked, carried my precious cargo to the location, walked around alittle to let me phone settle. I landed on 0m and for the third and final time pushed the little black button. The words "Searching..." appeared. I held my breath.

YESSS! It had me 4m from GZ and the most beautiful sound of a mechanism turning began, I heard a click and like magic the cache container was unlocked. Far out, it was such a thrill to open the container and see its contents. Lots of pathtags (which I took photos to log), swappables for kids and a TB which I discovered.

Thank you Geo_jas for creating such an enjoyable and new way of doing geocaching. A well constructed container that worked flawlessly for me. Felt really privileged to be able to complete it. Highly recommended to everyone!
 
21-Feb-15
I had heard about this cache for some time and having caught up with the CO at today's Victoria Geocaching Awards event, and discovering this cache was present I was keen to give it a go.

Hoping I had the required tools required on me I was given a demonstration of how to take the readings (and was glad to see that on such a hot day the cache was only about 250m away). Taking another reading (in the company of the Double AAs who sadly had to go) I flipped a coin and headed off to take reading #3, spotting an intriguing landmark where I decided to go. As luck would have it this was only about 5m from GZ so the box opened immediately without having to resort to any calculations! Smile Signed my entry as third to find, not having any swaps on me I left the tempting pathtags but took a photo of the swaggie within to discover Smile

A great gadget cache geo_jas - definitely worth maximum thumbs up!
 
01-Jan-15
I'll be heading down near Geelong sometime next week. I'll take this cache down if anyone is interested. Clan Cerberus
 
27-Nov-14
I'll be taking this along to GA6993 - Valley of Nervous Nellies on Saturday morning.
 
26-Nov-14
Found @19:00 with skirrel and youngest geocachelette.

I got my hands on the container on Friday last week when the CO most generously dropped by my place of work. I waited until I got home so I could get the kids involved and with them in tow, we ventured forth for the first activation. There were two simultaneous "coooooool" reactions... a good sign.

I had a camera ready to capture the resulting information, which I did. I retreated to the computer to plan our next move. Over the weekend the opportunity didn't quite manifest for the next stage, so I made a solo expedition for activation 2. I returned to home base to share the findings with the rest of the 'team' and plan the finale. With two options available, it seemed that one was the obvious choice and the other completely ridiculous - just the way I like my options... a no brainer.

I made a tentative arrangement to gather the kids after work on Tuesday night to visit my calculated location, however an unscheduled trip to the royal children's kiboshed that (it turned out to be nothing requiring urgent medical intervention, but best to be safe than sorry).

Determined to get the box open (and return it to the CO in time for the weekend event), I revised the plan for Wednesday. This time everything went well and, after a short drive then stroll, we activated the device once more. With bated breath, we stood and watched the screen as it searched.

Success!

The latch clicked and we beheld the wondrous treasures held within. I swapped a pathtag, left a Dora and a Boots figurine, and signed log. I just remembered that I forgot to grab the code for the swaggie.

We had no difficulties operating the device.

The box has now been returned to the CO. Thanks a heap geo_jas, it was a great adventure, both of the kids and I loved it.
 
19-Nov-14
I'd like to give this a go.

(I'm in the SE suburbs)
 
19-Nov-14
FTF yay!
Well I offered to be the Beta Tester for Jason's new Reverse Cache.
I called by and picked up the box from him this afternoon, and then had a few things to do before I could do anything with it.
After I arrived home I took it out into the back yard and pressed the button.
It didn't work quite as I expected the first few times, and made some internal noises until I wasn't game to hold the button down any more in case it blew!
After three long noisy episodes I was about to change my tactics when it suddenly started working as expected. Possibly it took a while for the GPS to readjust to the new area.
I quickly photographed the screen, and then jumped into the car and drove a couple of kms away to get another set of data for the triangulation.
This worked flawlessly, and I had two completed sets of data, after wasting the first because I wasn't organised enough.
I then came up with two solutions but only one was feasible.
It was only about 650 metres from home (thanks Jason) and so I set off for GZ with the box.
There was a seat at GZ, so I sat down and pressed the button.
After a few seconds the box came alive and voila! it popped open.
I signed the logbook, grabbed the pathtag, and replaced it with another, and then closed the box. When the button was pressed it locked again.
Afterwards I realised that I had forgotten to get the password for the swaggie, so I have left a note instead of a Spotted log.
Thanks geo_jas, a very interesting and enjoyable experience with your brilliant and innovative new cache.
 
18-Nov-14
Got it (as in the concept, not the box Wink). Many thanks. Very Happy
 
18-Nov-14
I have the box and you need to arrange to get it from me.

I'll update the description to be more clear.
 
18-Nov-14
I'm not quite sure I understand, is the box at the given coordinates or do we need to arrange to get it from you?

The reason I ask is that the posted coordinates are a bit unusual and look a bit like 'holding coordinates' with all those zeros.
 
13-Nov-14
I'd love to have a go - but we are in Bendigo
 
13-Nov-14
I'm pretty sure I've got most of the bugs.

Now who will be the first taker/guinea pig/beta tester?

There's a small prize for FTF.
 
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